Orgyen Trinle Dorje, Karmapa XVII*, is vegetarian since a few years.
At January 3, 2007, he made a strong statement against eating meat
within his monasteries and centers. With immediate effect:
- No meat is
to be prepared in the kitchen of any Kagyu Monastery or Centre.
- No one is
to be involved in the business of buying and selling meat
for all of his students this practice must stop.
- There is
to be no killing of animals on Kagyu premises.
- Karmapa is
aware of monks in robes going to buy meat and does not want to
see this ever again.
Holiness also quoted spiritual masters from the past who had condemned
the practice of using Tsok (offerings during a gathering)
as an excuse for eating meat and drinking alcohol. Leaving absolutely
no room for interpretation, Karmapa said that anyone who uses meat
and alcohol as Tsok is not part of Karmapas lineage.**
At December 24, 2007, at the 25th Kagyu Monlam H.H. Orgyen Trinle
Dorje again addressed the subject
of vegetarianism See also the VeggieDharma playlist at Youtube.
Like Chatral Rinpoche and other
great lamas, H.H. Orgyen Trinle Dorje is involved in Tsethar,
the Practice of Saving Lives. For more backgrounds, please see the
Life Page at his website.
Talk on Vegetarianism by KagyuMonlam.Org
translated simultaneously by Ringu Tulku
Rinpoche, January 3rd, 2007, Full Moon Day, during the
24th annual Great Kagyu Monlam,
Bodhgaya, India. [download
in PDF - 130 KB |
in MP3 - 12 MB]
Instructions On Not Eating Meat
From H.H. 17th Karmapa by Vin Harris [Download
in PDF - 113 KB]
Karma Thegsum Choling Newsletter Jan/Feb 2007 [Download
in PDF - 1 MB]
For the record: there are currenlty two Karmapa's XVII. Traditionally
the Karmapa is head of the Karma Kagyu lineage within Tibetan Buddhism.
In 1981 the sixteenth Karmapa died. Due to political issues within
the Tibetan Buddhist community instead of the usual one Karmapa,
two young Karmapas were appointed as his incarnation: the above
Orgyen Trinle Dorje and H.H.
Trinley Thaye Dorje. Only the latter is recognized by the Sharmapa,
who traditionally leads the Karma Kagyu lineage in concert with
the Karmapa, while only the first is recognized by the Tai Situpa,
who traditionally is charged with safeguarding the Karma Kagyu lineage
as well. Personally both young Karmapas seem willing to solve the
issue created by elders in their community, but this takes time.